PRABHUPADA: ..In Krishna's time there were cities like Mathura, Dvaraka. They were cities, big, big cities. And when Krishna came, they were decorating, they were receiving. So that kind of city will continue, but not this hellish city—slaughterhouse, brothel and big, big tin car, and so on, accident.

HARI-SAURI: Skyscrapers.

PRABHUPADA: We have no objection to this, provided there is Krishna consciousness. Unfortunately these things cover more time for their maintenance, and they forget Krishna consciousness. That should be stopped. The main business is development of Krishna consciousness.

RAMESVARA: And you also mentioned not so much these ugra-karmic jobs.

PRABHUPADA: Yes. Yes.

RAMESVARA: Industry. Now hundreds of thousands of people have their jobs in this way. So...

PRABHUPADA: Let them go to the farm. We are therefore organizing farm. As soon as they are jobless, "Come on. We shall feed you. We shall give you food." There is no scarcity of food.

HARI-SAURI: Does that mean we have to wait for the situation to arise where they are jobless?

PRABHUPADA: No. We are waiting, but if anyone comes, we have already big, big farms. "Come, hundreds. We shall provide you."

HARI-SAURI: But this is talking in terms of millions of people who are engaged in America in the cities.

PRABHUPADA: Oh, yes. Let millions... The land is also millions' acres. We shall utilize gradually.