HRDAYANANDA: Prabhupada? You wrote in a letter to Bhagavan... You said that originally the Europeans had Aryan-type culture but they have become degraded.

PRABHUPADA: Oh, yes. They are still Aryan. Europeans are Aryan, Indo-Aryan. That is admitted in history.

HRDAYANANDA: You said that they became degraded by associating, by bad...

PRABHUPADA: Yes, by association with these aborigines.

HRDAYANANDA: Who were the aborigines they associated with?

PRABHUPADA: Everywhere there were aborigines. In India there are still aborigines, adivasi.

TAMAL KRSNA: You were saying, Prabhupada, the Huns.

PRABHUPADA: Huns.

TAMAL KRSNA: Yes. Huns. They were considered like that?

PRABHUPADA: Yes. Huns are also lower than the shudras, chandalas, dog-eaters, animal-eaters. And these Europeans historians, they take the aborigines, their original father.

TAMAL KRSNA: Their what, Prabhupada?

PRABHUPADA: Original father.

TAMAL KRSNA: You said, "Yes, they are your original father."

PRABHUPADA: No, no. "The aborigines, the naked jangalis, they were original person." Do they not?

TAMAL KRSNA: Before that, there was the caveman.

PRABHUPADA: Ah, caveman. That's... Caveman. That is aborigine.

TAMAL KRSNA: And before the caveman was the missing link.

PRABHUPADA: And he has known missing link.

TAMAL KRSNA: They don't know who they're missing, 'cause he's missing.

PRABHUPADA: Just see the imagination, fanatic imagination. He is creating...

TAMAL KRSNA: Species.

PRABHUPADA: ...a theory, a species.

TAMAL KRSNA: Missing link species. And they have... They have models of this missing link.

PRABHUPADA: They know it; still "missing."

TAMAL KRSNA: Although it's missing...

PRABHUPADA: "Missing" means they know only, "Oh, he knows."

HRDAYANANDA: When I was preaching in California, one very famous anthropologist came to speak there, and he gave a new theory about the origin of the species. So he said... Before the audience he said that "Actually we have very little evidence of this theory."

PRABHUPADA: Hm?

HRDAYANANDA: He said that "We have very little evidence for this theory," but he said that "All of you should not be disturbed because our previous theory, we had no evidence whatsoever. [laughter] So this is an improvement."

PRABHUPADA: He admitted. "Previous theory, that was nonsense," and still the nonsense going on.

TAMAL KRSNA: "So don't be disturbed."

PRABHUPADA: Yes. "So you are dealing with all nonsense. Don't be disappointed."