Prabhupada: No, why you bring religion at all? It is science. Religion is a kind of faith. But science is not faith. You may have faith or may not have faith. Science, "Two plus two equal to four," everywhere.

Why they forget this? This is a science, vijnana. Jnanam te 'ham sa-vijnanam idam vaksyamy asesatah. It is vijnana. And they are interpreting in different way, "Two plus two equal five." Big, big men, they are doing that. Two plus two equal five because somebody, some big man has said? This is going on. Somebody said, "Two plus two equal to three"; somebody says "Two plus two equal five." "In my opinion it is five." And somebody: "In my opinion it is three." What is this nonsense? This is going on. And they are big men. They are leaders, mudha. This is the position of India.

D. Desai: But Swamiji, you are just... (Hindi) on Hindu...

Prabhupada: I'm not (Hindi). My jnana is Bhagavad-gita. That's all. Neither (Hindi). But what Krsna says, I accept. That's all. They say, "Swamiji, you have done wonderful." I do not know what is magic, wonderful. But one thing wonderful I have done, that I have not adulterated on the words of Krsna. That I have not. And therefore the effect is very good. I have not adulterated. I don't say, "Two plus two equal to five" or "three." I say "Four." Krsna has said. That's all.

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Prabhupada:.So if you think that Indira Gandhi... I think so also because I have heard so many times. Why not...? Her position is very nice. If she actually follows the instruction of Krsna, her position will be more secure. That is sure. Let her take this.

Guest (1): But who will advise her, sir?

Prabhupada: I will advise!

Guest (1): Ah, that is it. That is the...

Prabhupada: You arrange, I will advise her. I am not proud, but I am the authority at the present moment. It is not pride. It is the fact! So let her take! Let her understand. The authority is there. And what is understanding? It is simple truth. Everyone can understand. Any child can understand. There is no difficulty. We make it difficult by our rascal interpretation...

Hare Krsna Damaghosa das