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Satsvarupa: The modern young person thinks, "I don't want someone to tell me the truth. I don't want someone to pick out who my husband or wife is. I want to be free to experiment and find out for myself. Then I'll know."

Prabhupada: But where is your freedom?

Satsvarupa: That I don't have someone to tell me what to do. I will learn by my own experience.

Prabhupada: Then why do you go to school? Huh?

Satsvarupa: Well, nowadays school also, they don't think that the professor is like their guru.

Prabhupada: After all, the parents send the children to school to learn. Why not freedom? [in other words, where's the childs freedom here?]

Satsvarupa: Yes. That's a good argument.

Prabhupada: When you go in your childhood on the street, why the father does not give you freedom? You'll... You get freedom to die, and the parents takes your freedom to save. So which is better, to die or to be saved?

Satsvarupa: To be saved.

Prabhupada: So then?

Satsvarupa: But I need their help when I'm a child. But when I'm sixteen years old, then I...

Prabhupada: But after all, you had no freedom. Similarly, you are still child because you are speaking like a child.

Hari-sauri: Their conception of freedom is very limited.

Prabhupada: There is no freedom. Where is freedom? You have to die. Where is your freedom? You don't like to die. But you have to die.

Gurukrpa: They used to have a slogan, all the hippies: "When I have to die, I'm the one that has to die. So let me live my life the way I want to."

Prabhupada: What is that? "When I have to die"?

Gurukrpa: "I have to experience it. Therefore let me live the way I want to. When it's time for me to die, it's my death."

Prabhupada: But when there is warning of death, why do you fly? You have to die, but when there is warning of death, why you fly? (laughter) Rascal, why you fly? That means you do not want to die. You give this slogan, that "When there is warning of death, why do you fly? You have to die." (laughter) It is a rascal civilization, that's all. Western civilization is a rascal civilization. I do not take they are civilized even. No. White aborigines. That's all. (break) Mahaprabhu says, janma sarthaka kari' kara para-upakara. In other countries there is no civilization. In India there is civilization. Just you become civilized and distribute this knowledge.

This Krsna consciousness movement is that para upakara. They do not know what is civilization. Such broader idea of Caitanya Mahaprabhu. He never said that "Sit down in Vrndavana and become a babaji." Kara para upakara. That is sankirtana.

This is Caitanya Mahaprabhu's preaching. Karuna-sindhu, the ocean of mercy, it was blocked. Let it be opened, and distribute throughout the whole world. So if you work vigorously, this is an epoch-making history, how real culture is being distributed for the benefit of the whole human society. They'll realize. What do you think? Eh?