PRABHUPADA: You just work little, produce your food, eat, and save time, and try to understand Krishna. This is the nature's arrangement. Anywhere, any part of the world, you can produce your food. Simply you require a little land and some cows. Everything is complete. You take milk from the cows and just till the field and get some food grains. That is sufficient. Whole economic question solved. And save time for developing Krishna consciousness. This is the arrangement.

DAVID LAWRENCE: It was interesting to see a recent television program in this country...

PRABHUPADA: Yes.

DAVID LAWRENCE: ...on farming, and it was talking about the so-called modern methods of farming which have destroyed the earth in this country, really, in great areas. And it showed an Englishman and his son who believe in the old methods with cows on the land. And he is not only doing better economically, but he was so happy, the two men were so happy.

PRABHUPADA: Yes.

DAVID LAWRENCE: They were just working with nature, not against nature.

PRABHUPADA: Just like so much field is there. You, if you take the all village people, you can produce enough food for them in this village. So much land is lying there. Simply you keep cows and till ground, get your food grains. Enough. And if you take the whole planet as it is, you can feed ten times population. There is so much prospect. Australia, Africa. So much vacant land. You can produce enough quantity of milk and food grains.

DAVID LAWRENCE: Yes, I think this was the clinching argument in this program...

PRABHUPADA: But they are doing... What they are doing? They're taking the milk and slaughtering the animals and sending to foreign countries for trade. New Zealand, Australia, they are doing like that. Just see.

DAVID LAWRENCE: Or they're throwing down the surplus milk down coal mines.

PRABHUPADA: Eh?

DAVID LAWRENCE: They throw surplus milk down coal mines.

PRABHUPADA: That's it.

DAVID LAWRENCE: When there are people without any...

PRABHUPADA: How they are wasting! You see? And they're putting the overstocked grain into the sea. America.

DAVID LAWRENCE: Dumping tomatoes, bananas, all these things.

PRABHUPADA: What kind of civilization? And producing Nixon on the head. Just see.

DAVID LAWRENCE: Yes.

PRABHUPADA: And they want to be happy. This is their position.

DAVID LAWRENCE: They'll give...

PRABHUPADA: The head of the administration is Nixon, and the activities is killing and throwing the grains in the sea. And they are civilized. Just see. Where is civilization? They have no common sense even.